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De Tegenpartij
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Posted 31-12-2011 13:27 by De Tegenpartij Wijzig reactieProfiel van De TegenpartijQuote dit berichthttp://www.judgementday.nl

Geen idee, het eerste wat me te binnen schoot.

Meteen negatief ook, natuurlijk.


En dat, als ik 'em dan in m'n mond stop en ik bijt, doorbijt, dattie dan zo ineens bwehlehlee whe. Zo loopt, in m'n mond. Dus dat het nat wordt en zoet, in m'n mond. Dát wil ik.


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Posted 31-12-2011 13:30 by Ralph (Speciaal lid) Wijzig reactieProfiel van RalphQuote dit berichthttp://soundsfromthedarkside.com

Dat wel ja


http://soundsfromthedarkside.com "GEICO does not cover Autobot Matrix of Leaderships."


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Posted 31-12-2011 14:00 by Mutilator (Moderator) Wijzig reactieProfiel van MutilatorQuote dit berichthttp://wp.livereviewer.com/

'Hoero' wel eens gehoord en nu dus de neuro en de zeuro.


The quality of our perceptions determines the quality of our judgement. Our judgement determines how we interact with the world. How we interact with the world changes the world. So, the quality of our perceptions changes the world.


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Posted 31-12-2011 14:02 by Kvelgeest Wijzig reactieProfiel van KvelgeestQuote dit berichthttp://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/index.html

Ja, alleen jammer dat Neuro staat voor Noord Europese Euro en Zeuro voor Zuid Europese Euro en dus geen 'scheldwoorden' zijn.


If there’s one thing we’ve learned from the death of Dimebag it’s this, making shitty music can get you killed.


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Posted 31-12-2011 14:10 by Forever After Wijzig reactieProfiel van Forever AfterQuote dit bericht

kekt veuro.


 


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Posted 31-12-2011 14:15 by bastianus Wijzig reactieProfiel van bastianusQuote dit bericht

quote:
Op 31 december 2011 13:16 schreef Ralph het volgende:
Dat is geen bijnaam maar in de meeste gevallen gewoon achterlijkheid. Een beetje hetzelfde slag mensen wat nog steeds 's ochtends op kantoor binnenkomt met "goeiesmorgens deze morgen" en waarbij ook "het wiel rochelen" nog steeds volop in zwang is. Althans, in mijn omgeving.

Goeiendagschotel!


Het radicale feminisme is niet eens een lachnummer meer: het is een karikatuur van een parodie op een klucht.


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Posted 31-12-2011 14:59 by Mutilator (Moderator) Wijzig reactieProfiel van MutilatorQuote dit berichthttp://wp.livereviewer.com/

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Op 31 december 2011 14:02 schreef Kvelgeest het volgende:
Ja, alleen jammer dat Neuro staat voor Noord Europese Euro en Zeuro voor Zuid Europese Euro en dus geen 'scheldwoorden' zijn.


Yep, doch met een zeer toepasselijke negatieve lading.



The quality of our perceptions determines the quality of our judgement. Our judgement determines how we interact with the world. How we interact with the world changes the world. So, the quality of our perceptions changes the world.


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Posted 31-12-2011 15:03 by Ralph (Speciaal lid) Wijzig reactieProfiel van RalphQuote dit berichthttp://soundsfromthedarkside.com

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Op 31 december 2011 14:15 schreef bastianus het volgende:
Goeiendagschotel!


Ik moest inderdaad even aan jou denken, al ben jij niet bepaald dom natuurlijk


http://soundsfromthedarkside.com "GEICO does not cover Autobot Matrix of Leaderships."


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Posted 31-12-2011 16:12 by Mark Wijzig reactieProfiel van MarkQuote dit bericht

De wat?


She went and she left me like litter. She took all future summers with her. I lost all my money cuz I tried to bribe her. Now I can only afford an amateur sniper.


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Posted 31-12-2011 16:25 by Forever After Wijzig reactieProfiel van Forever AfterQuote dit bericht

Iets vergelijkbaars als dat papier met dat eeuwig chagrijnig wijf d'r op waar ze in Engeland mee betalen.


 


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Posted 31-12-2011 19:48 by Mark Wijzig reactieProfiel van MarkQuote dit bericht

Moet wel zeggen dat het tot nu toe toch redelijk teleurstellend is. Ik zit de hele tijd maar te wachten totdat de pond weer eens lekker gaat stijgen ten opzichte van de euro, maar in de 5 jaar dat ik hier zit is dat ding alleen maar omlaag gegaan


She went and she left me like litter. She took all future summers with her. I lost all my money cuz I tried to bribe her. Now I can only afford an amateur sniper.


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Posted 31-12-2011 20:22 by Helvete Wijzig reactieProfiel van HelveteQuote dit bericht

Volgens mij heb ik op ZM nog nooit zo veel domme reacties bij elkaar gezien als het eerste aantal pagina's van dit topic.


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Posted 01-01-2012 9:49 by bastianus Wijzig reactieProfiel van bastianusQuote dit bericht

quote:
Op 31 december 2011 15:03 schreef Ralph het volgende:
Ik moest inderdaad even aan jou denken, al ben jij niet bepaald dom natuurlijk
Dank u!


Het radicale feminisme is niet eens een lachnummer meer: het is een karikatuur van een parodie op een klucht.


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Posted 24-04-2012 14:44 by Mark Wijzig reactieProfiel van MarkQuote dit bericht

Aardig stukje in de Financial Times, parabel over de Euro (voor de geinteresseerden):

"A euro parable: the couple with a joint account

By Kenneth Rogoff

Perhaps the following parable is not entirely fair to the euro, but nevertheless the parallels seem striking.

Consider a young couple who is contemplating marriage, but unsure whether to take the big step. So instead they decide to test things out by opening a joint bank account. At first things go remarkably smoothly. Heady with success, they get the inspiration of extending the arrangement to her brother and his sister. Not only do they hope to show their siblings how well they can cooperate, but with four people, the total size of the account reaches the critical threshold needed to receive exorbitant privileges normally accorded to the bank’s larger customers.

Thanks to a cleverly designed constraint to limit imbalances between each sibling’s contributions and withdrawals, the innovative experiment continues to flourish. There is no real enforcement mechanism, but the two sets of siblings are determined to make the arrangement succeed. Forced to interact routinely, the couple and their siblings start becoming closer. They even start having dinners together on a routine basis.

Eventually, the quartet decides that dinners will be even more fun, and the bank will give them an even better deal, if they expand the arrangement. So the siblings persuade a few cousins to join. Pretty soon, their phones are ringing off the hook with family members they have not seen in years. Cousin Kendra, a marginally employed chef with precarious finances, is nevertheless welcomed in hopes she will employ her culinary skills to enrich group meals.

Life is not without its problems. Everyone is irritated at first cousin Nigel, who lives just across the river yet insists on managing his own finances. He is still invited to meals, though his cooking skills are hardly up to Cousin Kendra’s. She, in turn, exhibits little enthusiasm for balancing her chequebook, and the bank sends ever more frequent warnings that her overdrafts would have to be covered by the others. Shortly after joining, a couple other cousins have taken advantage of their new prime customer bank status to buy extravagant apartments with jumbo loans at far lower interest rates than they were ever afforded in the past.

The whole complex scheme seems to survive against all odds until one day things suddenly start to collapse. Despite informal personal imbalance limits, several cousins significantly overdraw their accounts. Others fall behind on mortgage repayments. Panicked, the founding siblings ask themselves whether it might be best simply to kick out the group’s worst behaving members. Unfortunately, the bank informs them this will be very difficult to do without first closing the entire account, wreaking havoc with everyone's finances.

Desperate, the family brings in a well-regarded outside financial advisor. She comes up with the seemingly brilliant idea of a joint credit card, with payments guaranteed unconditionally by all, including the wealthiest cousins. This would allow the impecunious members to pay off bad cheques and mortgages, effectively borrowing against the resources of the others. And it wouldn’t be a gift, the advisor promised. Borrowers would pledge to skip meals. Any savings on ingredients would be used to make loan repayments. This works for a while until cousin Kendra starts to look pale from her diet. She begins missing work and the imbalance between her occasional deposits and frequent withdrawals gets worse. The richest cousins soon find they have to mortgage their houses in order to pledge enough cash to the bank to prevent an immediate collapse.

Of course, this grand experiment ends catastrophically. I will have to leave the reader in suspense as to whether the couple gets married. No doubt, in the film version of this parable, the studio would tape alternate endings and test which one sample audiences liked best.

Perhaps the parable overstates the risks fully independent countries face when sharing the same currency, but then again, maybe not by so much.

Economists have long understood that significant labour mobility is not nearly enough, A sustainable currency union requires other country-like features including a centralised fiscal authority that has as at least as much power to collect taxes as the constituent states. A central financial regulator is also essential, at least absent an adequate global regulator. And the centre cannot be endowed with so much power without the legitimacy that can only come from political union. Currency union without political union is an unstable halfway house.

This is not to say that a future United States of Europe, or part of Europe, needs to take any particular narrowly defined form. There is no one-size-fits-all formula for marriages or currency unions, although a loose bond that is easily broken is obviously not enough.

The real lesson of the euro’s grand experiment is that, given the weak state of global governance, the optimal single currency area is probably still a country, at least when two or more large countries are involved. A pre-nuptial joint bank account is a very unstable route to marriage.

The writer is professor of economics at Harvard University and co-author of “This Time is Different”


She went and she left me like litter. She took all future summers with her. I lost all my money cuz I tried to bribe her. Now I can only afford an amateur sniper.


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