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Posted 12-04-2022 14:32 by Fusion Wijzig reactieProfiel van FusionQuote dit bericht

Hehe ja zeker nog even opgezocht uiteraard. Wollah!

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Posted 12-04-2022 14:41 by spectre Wijzig reactieProfiel van spectreQuote dit bericht


Ik ben een romanticus en zo'n James Bond sigaret lijkt mij wel wat

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Posted 24-06-2022 8:17 by Herfsthoofd666 Wijzig reactieProfiel van Herfsthoofd666Quote dit bericht

We zijn klaar

Nieuwe spellin, aude spelling, coronaspelling....
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Posted 30-09-2022 11:28 by nark Wijzig reactieProfiel van narkQuote dit bericht

Kaartjes voor Roger Waters binnen……..

Zenuwslopend weer dat kaartjes kopen maar weer veel zin an.

Nieuwe spellin, aude spelling, coronaspelling....

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Posted 30-09-2022 15:00 by OPPEREINDBAAS Wijzig reactieProfiel van OPPEREINDBAASQuote dit bericht

Een aantal kaarten schijnen weer ingeleverd te zijn vanwege een politiek statement van Waters. Stelletje deugkneuzen

“Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?”

An Open letter to Mrs. Olena Zelenska from Roger Waters

Sunday 4th September 2022

Dear Mrs. Zelenska,

My heart bleeds for you and all the Ukrainian and Russian families, devastated by the terrible war in Ukraine. I’m in Kansas City, USA. I have just read a piece on apparently taken from an interview you have already recorded for a program called ‘Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg’ which is to be broadcast on the BBC today, September 4th. quotes you as saying that “If support for Ukraine is strong, the crisis will be shorter.” Hmmm? I guess that might depend on what you mean by “support for Ukraine”? If by “support for Ukraine” you mean the West continuing to supply arms to the Kiev government’s armies, I fear you may be tragically mistaken. Throwing fuel, in the form of armaments, into a fire fight, has never worked to shorten a war in the past, and it won’t work now, particularly because, in this case, most of the fuel is (a) being thrown into the fire from Washington DC, which is at a relatively safe distance from the conflagration, and (b) because the ‘fuel throwers’ have already declared an interest in the war going on for as long as possible. I fear that we, and by we I mean people like you and me who actually want peace in Ukraine, who don’t want the outcome to be that you have to fight to the last Ukrainian life, and possibly even, if the worst comes to the worst, to the last human life. If we, instead, wish to achieve a different outcome we may have to seek a different route and that route may lie in your husband’s previously stated good intentions.

Yes, I mean the platform upon which he so laudably ran for the office of President of Ukraine, the platform upon which he won his historic landslide victory in the democratic election in 2019. He stood on the election platform of the following promises.

1. To end the civil war in the East and bring peace to the Donbas and partial autonomy to Donetsk and Luhansk.

2. And to ratify and implement the rest of the body of the Minsk 2 agreements.

One can only assume that your husband’s electoral policies didn’t sit well with certain political factions in Kiev and that those factions persuaded your husband to diametrically change course ignoring the peoples mandate. Sadly, your old man agreed to those totalitarian, anti-democratic dismissals of the will of the Ukrainian people, and the forces of extreme nationalism that had lurked, malevolent, in the shadows, have, since then, ruled the Ukraine. They have, also since then, crossed any number of red lines that had been set out quite clearly over a number of years by your neighbors the Russian Federation and in consequence they, the extreme nationalists, have set your country on the path to this disastrous war.

I won’t go on.

If I’m wrong, please help me to understand how?

If I’m not wrong, please help me in my honest endeavors to persuade our leaders to stop the slaughter, the slaughter which serves only the interests of the ruling classes and extreme nationalists both here in the West, and in your beautiful country, at the expense of the rest of us ordinary people both here in the West, and in the Ukraine, and in fact ordinary people everywhere all over the world.

Might it not be better to demand the implementation of your husband’s election promises and put an end to this deadly war?


Roger Waters

Dwazen die menen wijs te zijn, zijn de ergste dwazen.

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The Dude
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Posted 30-09-2022 15:10 by Natural Disaster Wijzig reactieProfiel van Natural DisasterQuote dit bericht

Hij heeft er ook eentje aan Poetin:

Roger Waters
Los Angeles, CA
Sunday 25th September 2022
Recently I have been reading comments on social media, asking why I’ve written to Mrs. Olena Zelenska but not Mr. Vladimir Putin? Very good question, I’m glad you asked, here it is.

Roger Waters' open letter to Vladimir Putin.

Dear President Putin, since The Russian Federation invaded Ukraine on February 24th this year I have tried to use my small influence to encourage a ceasefire and a diplomatic settlement that addresses the security needs of both Ukraine and The Russian Federation. In that endeavor I have written two open letters to Mrs. Olena Zelenska the wife of the Ukrainian President. These letters are readily available on the internet. I am increasingly asked to write to you too, so here goes. Firstly, would you like to see an end to this war? If you were to reply and say, “Yes please.” That would immediately make things a lot easier. If you were to come out and say, “Also the Russian Federation has no further territorial interest beyond the security of the Russian speaking populations of The Crimea, Donetsk and Lubansk.” That would help too. I say this because, I know some people who think you want to overrun the whole of Europe, starting with Poland and the rest of the Baltic states. If you do, fuck you, and we might as well all stop playing the desperately dangerous game of nuclear chicken that the hawks on both sides of the Atlantic seem so comfortable with, and have at it. Yup, just blow each other and the world to smithereens. The problem is, I have kids and grandkids, and so do most of my brothers and sisters all over the world and none of us would relish that outcome. So, please Mr Putin indulge me, and make us that assurance.

Alright back to the table, if I’ve read your previous speeches correctly, you would like to negotiate a state of neutrality for a sovereign neighboring Ukraine? Is that correct? Assuming such a peace could be negotiated it would have to include an absolutely binding agreement not to invade anyone ever again. I know, I know, the USA and NATO invade other sovereign countries at the drop of a hat, or for a few barrels of oil, but that doesn’t mean you should, your invasion of Ukraine took me completely by surprise, it was a heinous war of aggression, provoked or not.
When Mrs. Zelenska replied to me via Twitter, I was very surprised and mightily moved, if you were to reply to me, I would mightily respect you for it, and take it as an honorable move in the right direction towards a sustainable peace.

Yours sincerely

Roger Waters

Rule #6 | Je lult maar tot je letterlijk een ons weegt. | Op 13 augustus 2021 22:26 schreef Eindbaas het volgende: "Het stelletje dwazen dat klakkeloos alles overneemt uit boekjes en dan denken te weten hoe de wereld in elkaar zit."

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Posted 08-10-2022 18:34 by OPPEREINDBAAS Wijzig reactieProfiel van OPPEREINDBAASQuote dit bericht

Roger Waters bij Joe Rogan. Ik vond het een mooi gesprek

Dwazen die menen wijs te zijn, zijn de ergste dwazen.

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Posted 08-10-2022 19:14 by Dypfrys Wijzig reactieProfiel van DypfrysQuote dit bericht

Waarom zou je waarde hechten aan de (politieke) mening van iemand die leuk muziek kan maken, of een BN'er ofzo. Ik heb dat nooit begrepen.

Our dream, ended like dreams do

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Posted 08-10-2022 20:21 by OPPEREINDBAAS Wijzig reactieProfiel van OPPEREINDBAASQuote dit bericht

Op 8 oktober 2022 19:14 schreef Dypfrys het volgende:
Waarom zou je waarde hechten aan de (politieke) mening van iemand die leuk muziek kan maken, of een BN'er ofzo. Ik heb dat nooit begrepen.

Bij Pink Floyd zijn de muziek en de boodschap natuurlijk altijd nauw verbonden geweest, zeker toen Waters het voor het zeggen had. De agressie op Animals bijv. hoor je ook weer terug in de teksten, ik hou daar wel van hoe dat bij PF altijd mooi samenkomt. Albums als Animals, The Wall of The Final Cut waren voor mij minder sterk geweest zonder hun concept. En de zaken waar hij nu zijn bek over opentrekt liggen ook weer erg in het verlengde daarvan. Tja ik vind dat wel tof eigenlijk, het geeft de muziek nog wat meer diepgang.

Er is trouwens net een minidocu over Animals uitgekomen. Hij had wat langer mogen duren (bijv. meer uitleg over hoe elk dier een bepaald type mens vertegenwoordigt) maar verder erg leuk om te zien:

[Dit bericht is gewijzigd door OPPEREINDBAAS op 08-10-2022 20:26]

Dwazen die menen wijs te zijn, zijn de ergste dwazen.

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